B"ulent Sezgin: Our live broadcast continues insha'Allah. We have a very valuable guest from the United States. Allow me to introduce my guest, Mr. Oktar.
Adnan Oktar: Go ahead please.
B"ulent Sezgin: Journalist Jeff Gardner is the chairman of the board of directors of the international humanitarian media and communications company Catholic Media. In 2013, he launched "The Picture Christians Project", which aims to educate society about the lives of Christians around the world and to find solutions to their unique conditions. Jeff Gardner works as a reporter in countries such as Iraq, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. He is one of the few photographers and media specialists who travel to the Middle East and document the experiences of Christians, refugees and terror victims. Mr. Gardner's writings and photographs are published in numerous national and international media outlets and publications. Welcome.
Adnan Oktar: Mr. Gardner is a very versatile man and the works he does are magnificent.
Adnan Oktar: Your face shows purity and Divine light, which is due to your faith, your love for Jesus Messiah.
Jeff Gardner: Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me, thank you.
Adnan Oktar: It is an honor for me.
Jeff Gardner: Thank you. Mr. Oktar, you stand out, I would say, almost unique, not just here in Turkey but in many parts of the world in your passionate pursuit, concerning the origins of life, and a combative approach to Darwinism. Let me ask you to start, you know, questions. How long have you been doing this, and why do you do this? Why the passion?
Adnan Oktar: Even though it is perfectly obvious that God is the Creator, fully grown men ignore this fact and try to base everything on coincidences in their explanations as if they are tricking children. Because I've understood that it is an insult to our intelligence to say that plants, fruits, people, animals, vacuoles, mitochondria etc. all came into existence with all their details by chance, I respond to this impertinence, try to mend this injustice with all my strength.
Jeff Gardner: Okay, in addition to your work concerning the origins of life, you have also developed a reputation as someone that reaches out to other phase. You routinely have leading members of the Christian and Jewish communities on your program. Why do you do that? Why do you feel that outreach is important?
Adnan Oktar: I have love for everyone who has love for God.
Jeff Gardner: Very straightforward and on that topic specifically you and your organization have published the following, let me read this; "We represent a
peaceful voice of Islam. We are opposed to all acts of violence,
including radicalism and terrorism." Now many in the West and around the world, they would look at the violence perpetrated by Muslims with horror and I think incomprehension. They don't understand why. Could you, what would you say to them, especially people in the West, about, you know, how did they make sense out of violence being committed in the name of Islam? This is something that really puzzles the people of the West.
Adnan Oktar: Radicalism is a different religion, it is not Islam. Islam is the religion that is explained in the Qur'an. In the religion explained in the Qur'an, love and compassion are the main purposes. I mean, God's sole purpose is love. Since the sole purpose of radical Islam, as it looks like, is violence and horror, we do not consider it as Islam, we can only regard those people as people who exploit Islam. Therefore, we can consider radicalism as a pagan religion, an idolatrous religion. It has nothing to do with true Islam.
Jeff Gardner: And again, many in the West, they see the violence and they see, it seems to be getting worse. And then often it seems to be that the response of the West to the violence is violence. I suspect that you would say there is a different way, a different path...
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